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	<title>Comments on: Dog Training with Food: A Good or Bad Idea?</title>
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		<title>By: Joel Hargrove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Hargrove</dc:creator>
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		<description>ANSWER - it provides the wrong &quot;&quot;FOUNDATION&quot;&quot;.  OK?  Got that?  Food is for meal time.  The analogy to working for free is beyond obscene (are you for real?;-).  You don&#039;t work, you come home with NO money and starve - dogs eat at mealtime regardless and don&#039;t sacrafice anything essential by NOT getting treats for obeying - non comparo, dumb bell (some are so hopelessly stupid.  Heheeee).  You really need a 100 level course in  logic.  I have trained professionally for 40 years - work dogs to title in Schutzhund and PP.  Dog work for praise - food is clearly coercive and sends the wrong message ENTIRELY - &quot;I&#039;ll obey you, but not because you&#039;re my handler and say I should - only because there exists a coercive reward in the final analysis - laughably stupid (but very profitable.  People are ignorant and unskilled - they want everything easy - food makes it easy, but the results are BAD in real life situations).  If you, like most, are incapable of laying the proper foundation (pack structure hierarchy with you solidly emplaced at the top, requiring your dog RESPECT you), food becomes necessary since you lack the skills to lay that foundation - food becomes compensatory in such a case.  Food helps the incapable in training since it motivates  - but lays the wrong foundation.  When you&#039;re hiking with your dog and he/she runs after a rabbit towards a busy road, you better scream and hold out your treats to get the dog to stop and avoid being greased, right?  G-d you&#039;re half-assed in you&#039;re entrenched stupidity (must be a Petco &quot;professional&quot; trainer;-)  Your analogies are so corrupt they&#039;re hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANSWER &#8211; it provides the wrong &#8220;&#8221;FOUNDATION&#8221;".  OK?  Got that?  Food is for meal time.  The analogy to working for free is beyond obscene (are you for real?;-).  You don&#8217;t work, you come home with NO money and starve &#8211; dogs eat at mealtime regardless and don&#8217;t sacrafice anything essential by NOT getting treats for obeying &#8211; non comparo, dumb bell (some are so hopelessly stupid.  Heheeee).  You really need a 100 level course in  logic.  I have trained professionally for 40 years &#8211; work dogs to title in Schutzhund and PP.  Dog work for praise &#8211; food is clearly coercive and sends the wrong message ENTIRELY &#8211; &#8220;I&#8217;ll obey you, but not because you&#8217;re my handler and say I should &#8211; only because there exists a coercive reward in the final analysis &#8211; laughably stupid (but very profitable.  People are ignorant and unskilled &#8211; they want everything easy &#8211; food makes it easy, but the results are BAD in real life situations).  If you, like most, are incapable of laying the proper foundation (pack structure hierarchy with you solidly emplaced at the top, requiring your dog RESPECT you), food becomes necessary since you lack the skills to lay that foundation &#8211; food becomes compensatory in such a case.  Food helps the incapable in training since it motivates  &#8211; but lays the wrong foundation.  When you&#8217;re hiking with your dog and he/she runs after a rabbit towards a busy road, you better scream and hold out your treats to get the dog to stop and avoid being greased, right?  G-d you&#8217;re half-assed in you&#8217;re entrenched stupidity (must be a Petco &#8220;professional&#8221; trainer;-)  Your analogies are so corrupt they&#8217;re hilarious.</p>
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